I don’t know much of the protestant practices…but on a whole I wonder why people completely obstain from alcohol for spiritual reasons when ….not only did Jesus drink wine…use parables of the wine cloth…but turn water into wine… So I’d like to broaden this question to not just protestants!
I drink wine all the time. We are not prohibited from drinking alcoholic beverages. We are prohibited from drunkenness. (See Ephesians 5:18) We are also called not to stumble our brothers and sisters in Christ if our drinking wine, etc., would cause them to sin. (See Romans 14)
It also teaches that Jesus drank wine, but my fellow protestants are largely in denial…..
Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Why is probably an overreaction to drunkeness which the bible does teach against.
The joke aside, that wedding was his with Mary Magdalene.
Jesus was the host who had to make sure the wine for the guests would not run out. Her mother was in charge of getting
the servants busy.
The wine in Jesus day was the common drink because it had just enough alcohol in it to kill the parasites in the water. You see, they didn’t have clean drinking water during that time. Wine was how they purified their drink.
Today is a different story. Wine is no longer a necessity in order to have a quality and safe drink. We now have purified water. Wine, now, is considered to be something that is abused by most of society and because of, has an assumption attached to it. It is to the best witness of a Christian to avoid all appearances of evil by abstaining from wine or any associated drinks. It is not a sin to drink wine but is to abuse it. The best thing is to avoid it altogether.
Some Protestants do drink a Communion glass serving of wine or from a common chalice – - it is inaccurate to imply that all denominations see this the same way – - I believe that Lutherans and Episcopalians are the big “exceptions” from the teetotaller misconception in pop culture / religious stereotype
It does not imply that it was fermented. Wine can translate to grape juice, and in most cases(except when describing old wine or strong drink) it should since there are many other verses that warn against the detrimental effects of alcohol.
The story of the wedding in Cana should not be interpreted to say that Jesus created alcohol for a few reasons.
1) Jesus is the Creator. Everything that is good comes from God. Fermentation is a result of sin. In fact, yeast and fermented things are frequently used to represent sin in the Bible. And God used leavening as a symbol of corruption (“beware of the leavening of the Pharisees”). So for Jesus to create a new product already and old and rotten, would seem to go against His very nature.
2) The actual amount created by Him would have been plenty to make everyone at the party drunk. And no Christian can honestly say drunkenness is something Jesus would be responsible for.
So, although it goes against our current use of the word wine, contextually and translation-wise, it makes much more sense that Jesus actually turned the water into fresh grape juice. And you know what? They thought it tasted better than the other stuff. Probably cause it didn’t have that rotten taste to it.
But some people, regardless of context or translation, already have in their minds what the word means and refuse to listen to any sort of reason.
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They do, just not in church.
I don’t know much of the protestant practices…but on a whole I wonder why people completely obstain from alcohol for spiritual reasons when ….not only did Jesus drink wine…use parables of the wine cloth…but turn water into wine… So I’d like to broaden this question to not just protestants!
I drink wine all the time. We are not prohibited from drinking alcoholic beverages. We are prohibited from drunkenness. (See Ephesians 5:18) We are also called not to stumble our brothers and sisters in Christ if our drinking wine, etc., would cause them to sin. (See Romans 14)
It also teaches that Jesus drank wine, but my fellow protestants are largely in denial…..
Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
Why is probably an overreaction to drunkeness which the bible does teach against.
man made laws that have little to do with God’s word. Drunkenness is a sin, having a glass of wine with dinner is not. some **** the truth.
The joke aside, that wedding was his with Mary Magdalene.
Jesus was the host who had to make sure the wine for the guests would not run out. Her mother was in charge of getting
the servants busy.
We do drink wine. Some, even most, prefer the unfermented wine, which you would call grape juice.
The wine in Jesus day was the common drink because it had just enough alcohol in it to kill the parasites in the water. You see, they didn’t have clean drinking water during that time. Wine was how they purified their drink.
Today is a different story. Wine is no longer a necessity in order to have a quality and safe drink. We now have purified water. Wine, now, is considered to be something that is abused by most of society and because of, has an assumption attached to it. It is to the best witness of a Christian to avoid all appearances of evil by abstaining from wine or any associated drinks. It is not a sin to drink wine but is to abuse it. The best thing is to avoid it altogether.
There is no such thing as a protestant “Christians”.
It is a contradicition, there are only one group that are christians and they are called catholics.
Some Protestants do drink a Communion glass serving of wine or from a common chalice – - it is inaccurate to imply that all denominations see this the same way – - I believe that Lutherans and Episcopalians are the big “exceptions” from the teetotaller misconception in pop culture / religious stereotype
Jesus didn’t make intoxicating wine to be set in front of people who would drink it, who had already drank plenty, and who would get drunk on it.
It does not imply that it was fermented. Wine can translate to grape juice, and in most cases(except when describing old wine or strong drink) it should since there are many other verses that warn against the detrimental effects of alcohol.
The story of the wedding in Cana should not be interpreted to say that Jesus created alcohol for a few reasons.
1) Jesus is the Creator. Everything that is good comes from God. Fermentation is a result of sin. In fact, yeast and fermented things are frequently used to represent sin in the Bible. And God used leavening as a symbol of corruption (“beware of the leavening of the Pharisees”). So for Jesus to create a new product already and old and rotten, would seem to go against His very nature.
2) The actual amount created by Him would have been plenty to make everyone at the party drunk. And no Christian can honestly say drunkenness is something Jesus would be responsible for.
So, although it goes against our current use of the word wine, contextually and translation-wise, it makes much more sense that Jesus actually turned the water into fresh grape juice. And you know what? They thought it tasted better than the other stuff. Probably cause it didn’t have that rotten taste to it.
But some people, regardless of context or translation, already have in their minds what the word means and refuse to listen to any sort of reason.